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20 Questions with Nickelback's Chad Kroeger
By Troy Schmidt

1. What a coincidence that two of your band members share the same last name?
Chad: We were doing a show in Canada somewhere, and it was actually one of the fellows who does the news on one of the TV stations, and he said, "what's it like being in a band with your brother" and I said imagine what it would be like doing the news every day sitting next to your brother. And it was done, enough said. No, it's not that bad. It's really cool because when we're playing, when we're jamming on stage, there is a good chemistry there. Although when somebody else is sitting around, you know how siblings talk to each other. They are a little sharper, a little shorter. They could say something a little differently because it's your brother. You might say something a little harsh that you would never say to another band member because it's just not family. So when somebody is on the exterior and listening and watching in on that situation, they might think, wow, they don't get along. But it's like no, it's cause that's how you deal with your siblings. That's the way you talk to each other. It's like, no stupid, you might say something like that, and that's just the way you interact. But I would never say that to either one of the Ryans.

2. You have a cousin who also plays music. Do you think it's genetic?
Chad: I don't know, I don't know how it all started. My grandfather, he would be the equivalent of a Senator, I guess. You have Senators; in Canada we have Cabinet Ministers. My grandfather and my grandmother both played in a band and they were entirely comprised of Cabinet Ministers, and they were called the Tory Blue Notes. And so my grandma played the drums and my grandpa played the bass. And there was just always instruments and always music around, and so I played the drums a little bit and Mike played the bass a little bit, and I picked up a guitar and it all just sort of happened. It just sort of went that way. Then my grandpa bought my cousin a set of drums for Christmas and then he started playing, actually that was the first step. He was the first one to actually get an instrument, and I went back there to visit them, and I watched him play with his bunch of buddies making music, in his basement. They had the vocal mikes, the PA system, they even had a keyboard there, and they were just four guys in 1987 or 1988 and they were just making music. They were just sitting there making music right in front of me. I was like, this is amazing, absolutely amazing. I can't believe, you know, my cousin's over there, handling the rhythm section. There's vocals, and everything going on and I was just blown away. It just blew my mind. I was like, anyone could do this, you just have to practice a little bit. So, I called my mom and I said, I was going to be getting a present, and I don't know what it was for, and I think I wanted Nintendo, with the Mario Bros. and the whole nine yards. And I called her back and said, mom, can I switch presents? Can I get something else? She was like, well, what do you want? So I said, "can I get a guitar"? My mom teaches dancing. She is very artistic and she always wanted me to sing all the time. So she puts on some record and tells me to sing, I'd be like, "no mom, this is embarrassing." Singing to your mother is very bizarre when you're seven or eight. So, she was like, "I'll give you five bucks." So she would actually bribe me to sing, and so she was always pushing me and she said, "You know, sure, I'll get you that guitar." I got the guitar and then it was unreal. I just felt like the coolest kid in town. Got that guitar and started playing it. I could play a couple of songs, and I was really into it. And I taught myself everything. Mike picked up a bass and officially started playing it about two years after I started playing. But we never played in bands together or did anything together. When we were practicing stuff, or get guitar magazines, I'd go into my room and he'd go into his room. We wouldn't sit there and jam rips like that or become original. I'd be like, I'm learning this Metallica song and he'd be learning that Metallica song across the hall. And then he got into a cover band, I finished high school, yanked him out of his cover band, got the rest of the boys all from the same small town, started our own cover band, played covers, did the circuit. As soon as I got out of high school, we knew exactly what we were doing right away. We were like, we are going to steal their booking agent, get on that cover circuit. We did that for a year, then decided it was no fun playing other peoples music. We'd gone as far, I mean, we were good, we were a really good cover band. I wasn't singing I was just playing the guitar. And that's how it all got started.

3. I read somewhere that you said that you hate the word "grunge." What other words do you hate?
Chad: Derivative is not my favorite word. Mostly grunge, but you're going to get compared to everybody. Grunge is a term that is so-especially in '96 '97 '98-was used all the time. Grunge is this, grunge is that, grunge is dead. Can somebody please tell me what grunge is! Please! :You've got a band, a band that I would classify as grunge-Nirvana. They're a punk, alternative, something band that comes out of nowhere. Then you have a rock band, they call themselves Pearl Jam. Then you have this Black Sabbathesque metal band and they call themselves Soundgarden. Three sounds that sound completely and totally different, and just because they all came from the same place at the same time it's like, let's chuck them all in the same pot-let's call them grunge. So now, anybody that sounds like Soundgarden is grunge. Anybody that sounds like Pearl Jam is grunge and anybody that sounds like Nirvana is grunge. So it's like the dumbest thing I've ever heard. We are a rock band. We might draw influences from those bands, and other bands. I love the Beatles, Led Zeppelin. I love CCR (Credence Clearwater Revival). I also like Lauren Hill, Rage Against the Machine, Faith No More. I love Randy Travis, I love all that stuff, and it doesn't necessarily come through in all the music.
Hardrock.com: It could be worse, you could love disco.
Chad: True. Down here our first single, Leader of Men, broke a lot of ground. But as soon as they started to breathe, everyone said, oh, they sound like Bush. We never got that in Canada. It's very strange. It's kind of refreshing to hear us sound like something else, not the Pearl Jam or Soundgarden or this or that. Now we sound like Bush. I guess until you sell a million copies you don't sound like yourself.

4. Ok, here is a real deep question. You are from Canada, Why?
Chad: I don't know, lucky enough. Out of five billion people in the world, only 30 million get to live there.
Hardrock.com: 6 billion
Chad: Are there 6 billion?
Hardrock.com: Yeah, so how many live in Canada?
Chad: 29 million. One tenth of this population. Voted best place to live in the world by the UN. We've got amazing education. We've got a great environment. It's unfortunate that a lot of Americans think Canada is their largest national park. We've got great medical coverage, you know, it's just a great place to live. Taxes are a little bit high.

5. Why are so many Canadians funny? You have Rick Moranis, Eugene Levy, Dan Ackroyd, Paul Anka.
Chad: Paul Schaffer, Michael J. Fox.

I don't know. I guess nothing to do in the winter but sit around drink beer, crack jokes.

6. Who was your favorite Canadian Prime Minister?
Chad: Brian Mulroney. He was good friends with my grandfather. Met him, so I guess since that's my one connection there, I'm going to have to say him.

7. What's the secret to staying warm?
Chad: Move to Vancouver. They call it Hawaii, Canada. If you have to live in the best country in the world, voted by the UN, you might as well live in the best city in the best country in the world. It snows for fifteen minutes a year. You can go into the mountains on the north side and go snowboarding in the morning and then go down to the beach and go sun tanning in the afternoon. You can go surfing. You can do anything you want there. It rains a bit there. It's extremely similar to Seattle. It's a great place to live. A lot of music, a ton of music coming out of Vancouver right now. In fact, a bunch of friends of mine just signed and got an American deal down here, got them signed to a company called TBT, the band is called Default. So, I mean, there are so many bands coming from Vancouver right now.

8. Your song "Fly" is pretty personal. It takes guts to be that transparent.
Chad: Yeah, my dad wasn't around around when I was growing up. I would see my friend's dads push them into hockey, push them into baseball, push them somewhere. I didn't have anybody pushing. I was just watching everyone, saying come on, let's go get into trouble. They'd say, no, my dad will kick my ass. I would have loved to say that just once. But I never said it. So I was always getting into trouble. I was a bad kid. My dad and I have a great relationship now. There was a great problem there. My grandfather being the great monarch figure that he was, being in politics, having two successful businesses before he got into politics, very much into control. He just wanted my dad to do everything that he told him, do that, work for me, or work for my two sons, my two uncles. But why? So that my two boys can work for their two boys? Why not build a life of my own, you know, do this and do that, and my grandpa just did not want it. He wanted to control everything and my dad couldn't handle that. So he said you know what, the boys are going to be fine. They have a great mother, and a great grandfather who is more than willing to be their father figure-but he was very involved in politics and flying around a lot. I got to go with him a lot but there were also times when I wish he were around all the time. That was kind of a bummer, but my mom did a great job. We were spoiled right up to the day that my grandfather died. At the age of 13. And then I became one of the poor kids. I didn't get the skateboard as soon as I wanted it. I didn't get the new bike. Right when things, material things mattered, right when your 13, those new shoes, that new coat, this that, a new snowboard, I wanted all those things and that all the other kids got them, I just couldn't get them. And that just killed me, so I knew I had to get back there some how.

9. In the song Just Four, you want to beat up some guy who's looking at your girl.
Chad: Not exactly, but your interpreting pretty well. You know the feeling. You know when you're dating someone for a while and you really care about them, and being in the band I had to leave all the time. And there was this one guy who was sending her flowers and doing this sort of thing, and you know, it was just like, buddy, your stepping over the line.

10. Have you ever been in a fight, and who won?
Chad: Yeah, I've been in a fight and I won. It was the first gig that we had, no it was the first weeklong stint that we did as a cover band, we went way up north. Like twelve hours north of my hometown, and we played up in this place, and it was after the show, after our fourth set. There were like a couple hundred people in the bar. Most of the people had cleared. My brother was just sitting at a table talking with some friends, and I went up to the bar, then all of the sudden I heard all hell break loose. I looked over and saw some guy, and he had my brother held down and his girlfriend is jumping on his back and the rest of the people at the table were just getting cleaned by somebody and I just ran over there as fast as I could and he was just kind of winding up, getting ready to land his knee into my brother's squash and I reached over him and grabbed him, and he thought there's no one around, I'm going to win this one for sure, and I reached over top and he looked over-he was really scared because he was like, "uh-oh, there is somebody else here." I just pulled him over top of him and banged his head off the floor a couple of times.
Hardrock.com: Are you more of a lover or a fighter?
Chad: More of a lover.

11. In the song DEEP, who are you talking to?
Chad: I don't really know, I don't know. That's just one of those things where, in the start, that's more of the sarcastic verse in the start. It's like you see much better than I see. It's comparing someone to someone else. Somebody that everything they do is always better than you. No matter what they do, somebody that is always better than you. You can never be as good as that person and you never will be. And then in the last one it's more the sarcastic, yeah you know, you can probably bleed better than I bleed, and you stand right where a hole should.

12. In the song FLY, there are a lot of spiritual references in these songs.
Chad: That all has to do with my grandfather, and the loss of him. It is just sort of like, you know, if you're watching me and I'm screwing up, don't judge me right now because I will get it right. I will try to be a good person. I will be a good person, if I stray a little bit just don't judge me right now just wait until I get there. In terms of not leaving yet, I got off the phone with my mom and she said your grandma is in the hospital and she's probably not going to make it. And I got off the phone and I went down stairs and it was just like, the whole thing, the last fifteen minutes just came spilling out of my mouth. "Come lie next to me Jesus Christ, Holes in hand where a cross used to fit just right." That's her on her deathbed lying there waiting to be taken. Not leaving yet is me staying by her bedside until the last moment, even if the family is in the hall grieving, if they've left or whatever, I'm not leaving you.

13. Which of the Brady Bunch can you identify with the most?
Chad: Do I identify with? Probably the housekeeper, I don't know. Probably the smallest boy because I was the baby.

14. What does the title for your album "Curb" come from?
Chad: Curby is the name of my best friend when I was growing up and I always called him Curb. But I didn't want to be so literal and so transparent as to name it Kirb so we named it Curb. And the story of the song was, he was dating a girl. He would have been like 17 and she would have been 16, something like that, and we lived in a rural community, so he would have to sneak to go and see her. She lived on a farm and he was going to just go and knock on the window and surprise her. So he is in his truck, on a back road, and he comes to a hill, middle of the night, and has a head on collision with a car. He's ok, shaken up, gets out of the truck goes over to the car, opens the door and there is his girlfriend, and she's dead. She was sneaking to see him and they came over the hill and just bang. Now if you're still interested, go check out the lyrics to that one.

15. If you could go back into rock n roll history and could hear one performance, what would it be?
Chad: Any performance, I might want to see the Beatles perform right here.
Hardrock.com: On top of Shea Stadium
Chad: It doesn't matter, as long as I'm front row, it doesn't matter.
Hardrock.com: Would that be '60s or '70's Beetles?
Chad: '60s Beatles
Hardrock.com: Ed Sullivan?
Chad: Uh, that would be pretty cool. Not that anyone would be able to hear anything over all the screaming.
Hardrock.com: You'd be screaming "shhhh."
Chad: "Hey, I just came from the year 2000, do you think you can shut up for just two minutes!"

16. What was the last book you read?
Chad: The last book I read was called "Many Lives Many Masters." It's about past life regression therapy, going back through this woman's life who had all these phobias. And it was like the first past life hypnosis therapy, and it was very bizarre. This woman, when she was between lives, these voices would come out of her and they called themselves the masters, and they would reveal things about the future to this therapist, about his future about his past-a child, that his wife lost, it was a miscarriage, they already had the name for the child, and just all kinds of information that there is no way this woman could have known. It's a really cool book.

17. Do you think you had a past life?
Chad: Yeah, probably, I think that book says that every single life is like a test. It's like a trial period, and you're just trying to get it right, and once you actually get it right, that's what the monks are looking for. They're looking for enlightenment. They're trying to reach this higher state of being through meditation. And you also try to mend the things you did wrong in your past life. Say you were a very hateful person, or a very selfish person, in this life, the next one, you are trying to do those things right. And you keep doing it and doing it and once you do it right, you get to be a higher being. And you don't have to come back and do the tests again. I also believe that if you are extremely horrible in one life, you are going to come back in the next one and it is going to be that much harder. You're going to be set back much further and it is going to be a much more horrible life. As far as this life for me, I am thankful for whatever I did right in the last one because I have a pretty good life.
Hardrock.com: What is your test right now?
Chad: I mean, I know what it is but I can't say. I know three or four of them. Of the issues I have to get over, things I have to repair. Come to terms with in my life, some of the things I have to stop doing. Just my own little demons I have to dispel.

18. If you had five hours to live what would you do?
Chad: Five hours, for some reason, for some silly reason I think it has something to do with heights-jumping off of something, or getting myself into an airplane and just jumping, and get on the phone for a good hour and tell everyone that I know that I love them. Any past relationship that I'm still friends with that person. If I hurt them in any way to tell them that I'm sorry, and that if we could do it all over again and I could do it right, that I would. And just try to make amends and make peace and do my thing.

19. If one of your songs became the Canadian National Anthem, which would it be?
Chad: I don't think one of them will be suited for the Canadian National Anthem. They all talk about topics that deal with life, and National Anthems are supposed to be inspiring, and heartwarming, and they are supposed to give you a sense of patriotism and serve rally round, and I don't have any songs like that. For my songs, you just sort of sit back and get into them. Just sort of lean back and let the song wrap around you and just try to figure out what I'm saying. You don't seem to have that problem though.

20. "Love All, Serve All" is the HardRock motto. What does it mean to you?
Chad: Love All, Serve All, that is the HardRock motto? I'm going to go to a related topic. You know when you go to a concert these days, a big outdoor festival. It doesn't matter even if they love the band, they're throwing bottles, they're throwing shoes, they're getting winged on stage. That motto is not used enough today. I've played festivals with the Stone Temple Pilots, with the Deftones, and Godsmack and it doesn't matter who it is, they stop at the song they are playing or at the end of the song and say, "Hey! We're here to entertain you. We're here to give everybody a good time and all you want to do is throw stuff at us," and they still enjoy the band. That's not why they're throwing things, but when you get hit in the head with shoes and all kinds of things, you know, I've watched the Deftones at Zetafest and they said hey, you know what, we're sick of this, we've played six songs for you guys and we're not going to baby-sit you, this is the last song we're going to play! That's when you want to see more "Love All, Serve All."


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